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Post  Shaerty Wed May 04, 2011 1:37 pm

As you might have heard, we have killed Naj'entus in BT. Huzzah! To be honest, I didn't expect we would do it, but I'm also the first to say that I made a mistake in judgement. Well done all of you!

Now back to business. If we are going to do BT regularly from now on, we need to improve the group and the gear some people have even more. Yeah you read that correctly, even more, because Naj'entus is only the start. Below is a list of the people needed in BT. If you are on that list, well done, if you are not, see it as a reason to improve yourself rather than an arguement for being pissed at me. It's also possible for me to forget people so just reply to this topic, and I'll update the list. The number between brackets is the amount of people we need for a good group.

Tanks:
- Paladin (1): Azgarian, Tendian, (Spelguardion)
- Warrior (1-2): Jeezomg, Demeera, Hardy, Independent, Nerevarine
- Druid (1-2): Darkteror, Cellwln, Root

Healers:
- Priest (2): Canola, Pirke, Nealdrith, Anakoluth
- Shaman (2): Besnokeksche, Doranu
- Druid (1): Darkteror, Psychozombi, Zakul
- Paladin (1): Haladir, Manslayer, Spelguardion, Odessa

Melee dps:
- Warrior (1): Mikasa, Jeezomg, Drakal
- Rogue (1): Mxpro, Gressh (tendian's alt)
- Shaman (1): ...
- Druid (1): Darkteror, Rufass
- Paladin (1): ...
Physical dps
- Hunter (1-2): Aliora, Catak, Vasada

Spell Damage dps
- Warlock (3 minimum): Adoks, Killabee, Epiphany, Warlokjosh
- Mage (3 minimum): Destinylord
- Shaman (1-2): Brutalboy (Catak's alt)
- Druid (1-2): Psychozombi, Malaar
- Priest (1): Shaerty

As you can see, there are some spots that have way too many names in them, and some that have none in them. That's why I'm asking for everyone to have or make an alt or get gear for other specs. And most of all, have patience. We will get there, that's a given!
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Post  Shaerty Wed May 04, 2011 1:46 pm

Since this was the first time we did BT, I decided to use the system we've always used: rolls. If in the future, we succeed in having most of the guild in BT, I'm going to switch to the dkp system, since BT is the end-game (for now) and I understand the reasons. But since we're only starting this system has no use yet. When we start to use it, guildies and people that have raided with us (and me) will get a starting amount of dkp, whereas new people will start from 0 dkp. That might not sound fair for the newbies, but it's fair for the people that have tried their best for the guild and the raids we do so far. From that moment on, we will use dkp in all of our raids, well the ones I'm leading anyway.

When we get a full guild run, the HoDs and Marks of the Illidari will go to the guild vault, and the price will be lowered.
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Post  Shaerty Sun May 08, 2011 12:45 pm

Ok a little update: Next week we are not doing BT, to do all the others raids and get more people geared.
The week after that BT is back on the menu!

I've been looking at some dkp addons, so I'm going to be trying these out this week. I know this system has its pro's and con's, but lately I've seen more and more reason to start using it, since we have begun raiding with the guild and fewer and fewer pugs. So I think it's for the best.

Questions and comments are more than welcome (as long as they are civilized) :p
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Post  Aliora Sun May 08, 2011 10:41 pm

Well I have a few questions:
-If you think we are using dkp system please give us a little more info about it.
-All the raids will be dkp?
-We get dkp points only if you(Shaerty) is leader?
-We gain dkp points per boss killed?
-What happens if pugs join our dkp raids? They gain some dkp points for example. Next week we have people from guild we want in their place? What then? Guild got priority?

Please discuss Smile

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Post  Shaerty Sun May 08, 2011 11:44 pm

First question:
I haven't decided which addon i'll be using for the dkp points, i'll check them out this week.

Second question:
I think we should start doing every raid with dkp, yes, since we do them all anyway, it would be a little confusing to do only one i think.

Third question:
It is possible for a couple of people to use the same dkp files, so that would be the officers for example. That way you can raid with dkp while i'm not around. How this works, I don't know yet.

Fourth question:
Catinblack gives 5 dkp per boss killed. She does however give out points like when we helped her check SwP on Mushroomland, but since I'm not a GM, this won't be applicable :p

Fifth question:
Pugs will also gain dkp points the same way the guildies do. But since we're doing guild raids, people from the guild will get priority on invites.
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Post  Shaerty Mon May 09, 2011 9:37 am

This is just to save the manual of the addon, that I think is the best so far.

http://www.webalice.it/cell84/var/qdkp_man.pdf

If I'm correct this is the one, used by Catinblack
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Post  Aliora Mon May 09, 2011 6:01 pm

Ok thanks for the fast reply.
Please ask someone who is using dkp addon how can several people use the same addon/so we can help you with raiding/
Another thing: we need to decide how we will gain dkp/doesnt have to be same as cat's way/
As soon as we start the dkp system - the better.
And last but not least - when we start dkp raids there will be only dkp raids or no-raids at all.

Correct me if you see something wrong.
Peace.

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Post  Shaerty Mon May 09, 2011 9:47 pm

nothing wrong in my opinion, i'll talk to cat
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Post  jeezomg Mon May 09, 2011 10:15 pm

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Post  gabri Tue May 10, 2011 4:02 pm

Arrghh I'm Screwed, u got ur pally tank already, so my time here is done, for any raid, since I have tank pve gear only... well was fun to play with you Razz, anyways i 'll keep logging in

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Post  Shaerty Wed May 11, 2011 10:57 am

Gabri just because I didn't write your name on the list, doesn't mean you can't tank other raids.
You just have to keep working on it.
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Post  jeezomg Wed May 11, 2011 7:42 pm

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Post  Aliora Thu May 12, 2011 11:29 am

jeezomg wrote:i think it is better we use some things for talk to eachother in mid of raids
like Skype / xfire or other things like this
atleast leader and assistant should have it

I am up for that Smile
But it will be verry strange for me, because i've never joined any team speak channels Smile

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Post  Shaerty Thu May 12, 2011 12:02 pm

It 's only strange the first time :p
That 's when you hear eachother's voices :p
If we're going to do this, I would need the tanks
we invite to be on there too, doesn't matter if they have a mic
or not, they can listen too.
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Post  Azgarian Thu May 12, 2011 1:10 pm

Using Skype in the mid of the raids. If necessary yeah, it can really shorten the time spent for writing, BUT i don't have much of good experience Skyping in raids. The chat goes off-topic pretty soon. It also makes my wow even less FPSing. I still prefer the old macros or stuff like that Razz. Not to mention our english is not very fluent when it comes to speaking, so it could all look like "what, repeat what? i didnt hear, mic problems etc.

The next point i wanted to state out was about time raiding, We all know its hard to do raids when people log on random or they have to go in the mid of the raids. How about creating a topic and let other people report their best time for raids. Or cos people don't like forums much, we can just ask them to send a mail, so we know when should we do a raid.

For me, everyday but Tuesday is ok. And rarely other days. concerts or special stuff like that. And after 15.6 even Tuesday is an option.

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Post  Azgarian Thu May 12, 2011 1:11 pm

It is Azgarian btw, is there a possibilty to edit my name displayed? Razz

Yay, the displayed name has been edited, thnx Valky


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Post  Shaerty Thu May 12, 2011 2:38 pm

send a PM to Valkyar/scythe. He knows everything about these forums
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Post  Aliora Thu May 12, 2011 6:18 pm

Yeah, I thinks Azga has a point there - about team speak problems. Havent really thought of that...plus I will feel verry strange talkin in English while my 2 roomates are here. They will be like wtf? Very Happy

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Post  Shaerty Sun May 15, 2011 12:11 pm

Haha Smile Well let's try with macros first. If it doesn't work, it's fine either way :p
Also, my raiding is going to be limited from now on, but I'll come online from time to time
to see and perhaps start a raid and then leave an officer in charge.

I'm also changing the usual raid time back to 12.30 PM ST, since more people are online then.
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Post  Azgarian Mon May 23, 2011 1:53 pm

It was a few days ago since the GMOTD has said the Black Temple was to be on Wednesday. I play in an guitar orchestra and we have a 90min practice every Tuesday from 12.30 to 14.00. So there is no way for me to manage the raiding those particular days. However, i'll be done with them in late June. I think we've done a Black Temple on Tuesday before, but that was an exception for me. I won't be able to raid on Tuesday, so is there any chance we change the Black Temple raiding day? If it is not possible i don't mind very much, however i'd like to get myself into there... bounce

Edit: P.S. I've just found out i can't do a raid on Wednesday too... Im starting to get a little more busy than usual cos the school year is nearing to an end. I'll manage to join less raids too.


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Post  Shaerty Mon May 23, 2011 2:54 pm

I think I'm going to make a poll for the best Raiding days, since not everyone can be on time or even online.
I'll post the poll in a few days or even tomorrow and let you know it's on here using the GMotD.
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Post  Aliora Mon May 23, 2011 8:45 pm

Ok just a quick question. We are really doing BT this wednesday?

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Post  Azgarian Mon May 23, 2011 9:49 pm

Nop Ali, the current GMOTD says the BT is on Tuesday. It >used to write< that BT will happen on Wednesday Razz

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Post  Shaerty Tue May 24, 2011 9:02 am

It's because I can't lead BT on Wednesday. I have to go home to run 14.6 km :p
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