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Black Temple raids
As you might have heard, we have killed Naj'entus in BT. Huzzah! To be honest, I didn't expect we would do it, but I'm also the first to say that I made a mistake in judgement. Well done all of you!
Now back to business. If we are going to do BT regularly from now on, we need to improve the group and the gear some people have even more. Yeah you read that correctly, even more, because Naj'entus is only the start. Below is a list of the people needed in BT. If you are on that list, well done, if you are not, see it as a reason to improve yourself rather than an arguement for being pissed at me. It's also possible for me to forget people so just reply to this topic, and I'll update the list. The number between brackets is the amount of people we need for a good group.
Tanks:
- Paladin (1): Azgarian, Tendian, (Spelguardion)
- Warrior (1-2): Jeezomg, Demeera, Hardy, Independent, Nerevarine
- Druid (1-2): Darkteror, Cellwln, Root
Healers:
- Priest (2): Canola, Pirke, Nealdrith, Anakoluth
- Shaman (2): Besnokeksche, Doranu
- Druid (1): Darkteror, Psychozombi, Zakul
- Paladin (1): Haladir, Manslayer, Spelguardion, Odessa
Melee dps:
- Warrior (1): Mikasa, Jeezomg, Drakal
- Rogue (1): Mxpro, Gressh (tendian's alt)
- Shaman (1): ...
- Druid (1): Darkteror, Rufass
- Paladin (1): ...
Physical dps
- Hunter (1-2): Aliora, Catak, Vasada
Spell Damage dps
- Warlock (3 minimum): Adoks, Killabee, Epiphany, Warlokjosh
- Mage (3 minimum): Destinylord
- Shaman (1-2): Brutalboy (Catak's alt)
- Druid (1-2): Psychozombi, Malaar
- Priest (1): Shaerty
As you can see, there are some spots that have way too many names in them, and some that have none in them. That's why I'm asking for everyone to have or make an alt or get gear for other specs. And most of all, have patience. We will get there, that's a given!
Now back to business. If we are going to do BT regularly from now on, we need to improve the group and the gear some people have even more. Yeah you read that correctly, even more, because Naj'entus is only the start. Below is a list of the people needed in BT. If you are on that list, well done, if you are not, see it as a reason to improve yourself rather than an arguement for being pissed at me. It's also possible for me to forget people so just reply to this topic, and I'll update the list. The number between brackets is the amount of people we need for a good group.
Tanks:
- Paladin (1): Azgarian, Tendian, (Spelguardion)
- Warrior (1-2): Jeezomg, Demeera, Hardy, Independent, Nerevarine
- Druid (1-2): Darkteror, Cellwln, Root
Healers:
- Priest (2): Canola, Pirke, Nealdrith, Anakoluth
- Shaman (2): Besnokeksche, Doranu
- Druid (1): Darkteror, Psychozombi, Zakul
- Paladin (1): Haladir, Manslayer, Spelguardion, Odessa
Melee dps:
- Warrior (1): Mikasa, Jeezomg, Drakal
- Rogue (1): Mxpro, Gressh (tendian's alt)
- Shaman (1): ...
- Druid (1): Darkteror, Rufass
- Paladin (1): ...
Physical dps
- Hunter (1-2): Aliora, Catak, Vasada
Spell Damage dps
- Warlock (3 minimum): Adoks, Killabee, Epiphany, Warlokjosh
- Mage (3 minimum): Destinylord
- Shaman (1-2): Brutalboy (Catak's alt)
- Druid (1-2): Psychozombi, Malaar
- Priest (1): Shaerty
As you can see, there are some spots that have way too many names in them, and some that have none in them. That's why I'm asking for everyone to have or make an alt or get gear for other specs. And most of all, have patience. We will get there, that's a given!
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Regarding Loot system in BT
Since this was the first time we did BT, I decided to use the system we've always used: rolls. If in the future, we succeed in having most of the guild in BT, I'm going to switch to the dkp system, since BT is the end-game (for now) and I understand the reasons. But since we're only starting this system has no use yet. When we start to use it, guildies and people that have raided with us (and me) will get a starting amount of dkp, whereas new people will start from 0 dkp. That might not sound fair for the newbies, but it's fair for the people that have tried their best for the guild and the raids we do so far. From that moment on, we will use dkp in all of our raids, well the ones I'm leading anyway.
When we get a full guild run, the HoDs and Marks of the Illidari will go to the guild vault, and the price will be lowered.
When we get a full guild run, the HoDs and Marks of the Illidari will go to the guild vault, and the price will be lowered.
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Re: Black Temple raids
Ok a little update: Next week we are not doing BT, to do all the others raids and get more people geared.
The week after that BT is back on the menu!
I've been looking at some dkp addons, so I'm going to be trying these out this week. I know this system has its pro's and con's, but lately I've seen more and more reason to start using it, since we have begun raiding with the guild and fewer and fewer pugs. So I think it's for the best.
Questions and comments are more than welcome (as long as they are civilized) :p
The week after that BT is back on the menu!
I've been looking at some dkp addons, so I'm going to be trying these out this week. I know this system has its pro's and con's, but lately I've seen more and more reason to start using it, since we have begun raiding with the guild and fewer and fewer pugs. So I think it's for the best.
Questions and comments are more than welcome (as long as they are civilized) :p
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Re: Black Temple raids
Well I have a few questions:
-If you think we are using dkp system please give us a little more info about it.
-All the raids will be dkp?
-We get dkp points only if you(Shaerty) is leader?
-We gain dkp points per boss killed?
-What happens if pugs join our dkp raids? They gain some dkp points for example. Next week we have people from guild we want in their place? What then? Guild got priority?
Please discuss
-If you think we are using dkp system please give us a little more info about it.
-All the raids will be dkp?
-We get dkp points only if you(Shaerty) is leader?
-We gain dkp points per boss killed?
-What happens if pugs join our dkp raids? They gain some dkp points for example. Next week we have people from guild we want in their place? What then? Guild got priority?
Please discuss
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Re: Black Temple raids
First question:
I haven't decided which addon i'll be using for the dkp points, i'll check them out this week.
Second question:
I think we should start doing every raid with dkp, yes, since we do them all anyway, it would be a little confusing to do only one i think.
Third question:
It is possible for a couple of people to use the same dkp files, so that would be the officers for example. That way you can raid with dkp while i'm not around. How this works, I don't know yet.
Fourth question:
Catinblack gives 5 dkp per boss killed. She does however give out points like when we helped her check SwP on Mushroomland, but since I'm not a GM, this won't be applicable :p
Fifth question:
Pugs will also gain dkp points the same way the guildies do. But since we're doing guild raids, people from the guild will get priority on invites.
I haven't decided which addon i'll be using for the dkp points, i'll check them out this week.
Second question:
I think we should start doing every raid with dkp, yes, since we do them all anyway, it would be a little confusing to do only one i think.
Third question:
It is possible for a couple of people to use the same dkp files, so that would be the officers for example. That way you can raid with dkp while i'm not around. How this works, I don't know yet.
Fourth question:
Catinblack gives 5 dkp per boss killed. She does however give out points like when we helped her check SwP on Mushroomland, but since I'm not a GM, this won't be applicable :p
Fifth question:
Pugs will also gain dkp points the same way the guildies do. But since we're doing guild raids, people from the guild will get priority on invites.
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Re: Black Temple raids
This is just to save the manual of the addon, that I think is the best so far.
http://www.webalice.it/cell84/var/qdkp_man.pdf
If I'm correct this is the one, used by Catinblack
http://www.webalice.it/cell84/var/qdkp_man.pdf
If I'm correct this is the one, used by Catinblack
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Re: Black Temple raids
Ok thanks for the fast reply.
Please ask someone who is using dkp addon how can several people use the same addon/so we can help you with raiding/
Another thing: we need to decide how we will gain dkp/doesnt have to be same as cat's way/
As soon as we start the dkp system - the better.
And last but not least - when we start dkp raids there will be only dkp raids or no-raids at all.
Correct me if you see something wrong.
Peace.
Please ask someone who is using dkp addon how can several people use the same addon/so we can help you with raiding/
Another thing: we need to decide how we will gain dkp/doesnt have to be same as cat's way/
As soon as we start the dkp system - the better.
And last but not least - when we start dkp raids there will be only dkp raids or no-raids at all.
Correct me if you see something wrong.
Peace.
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Re: Black Temple raids
nothing wrong in my opinion, i'll talk to cat
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Re: Black Temple raids
Arrghh I'm Screwed, u got ur pally tank already, so my time here is done, for any raid, since I have tank pve gear only... well was fun to play with you , anyways i 'll keep logging in
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Re: Black Temple raids
Gabri just because I didn't write your name on the list, doesn't mean you can't tank other raids.
You just have to keep working on it.
You just have to keep working on it.
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Re: Black Temple raids
jeezomg wrote:i think it is better we use some things for talk to eachother in mid of raids
like Skype / xfire or other things like this
atleast leader and assistant should have it
I am up for that
But it will be verry strange for me, because i've never joined any team speak channels
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Re: Black Temple raids
It 's only strange the first time :p
That 's when you hear eachother's voices :p
If we're going to do this, I would need the tanks
we invite to be on there too, doesn't matter if they have a mic
or not, they can listen too.
That 's when you hear eachother's voices :p
If we're going to do this, I would need the tanks
we invite to be on there too, doesn't matter if they have a mic
or not, they can listen too.
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Skype and Raid time
Using Skype in the mid of the raids. If necessary yeah, it can really shorten the time spent for writing, BUT i don't have much of good experience Skyping in raids. The chat goes off-topic pretty soon. It also makes my wow even less FPSing. I still prefer the old macros or stuff like that . Not to mention our english is not very fluent when it comes to speaking, so it could all look like "what, repeat what? i didnt hear, mic problems etc.
The next point i wanted to state out was about time raiding, We all know its hard to do raids when people log on random or they have to go in the mid of the raids. How about creating a topic and let other people report their best time for raids. Or cos people don't like forums much, we can just ask them to send a mail, so we know when should we do a raid.
For me, everyday but Tuesday is ok. And rarely other days. concerts or special stuff like that. And after 15.6 even Tuesday is an option.
The next point i wanted to state out was about time raiding, We all know its hard to do raids when people log on random or they have to go in the mid of the raids. How about creating a topic and let other people report their best time for raids. Or cos people don't like forums much, we can just ask them to send a mail, so we know when should we do a raid.
For me, everyday but Tuesday is ok. And rarely other days. concerts or special stuff like that. And after 15.6 even Tuesday is an option.
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Oh and
It is Azgarian btw, is there a possibilty to edit my name displayed?
Yay, the displayed name has been edited, thnx Valky
Yay, the displayed name has been edited, thnx Valky
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Re: Black Temple raids
send a PM to Valkyar/scythe. He knows everything about these forums
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Re: Black Temple raids
Yeah, I thinks Azga has a point there - about team speak problems. Havent really thought of that...plus I will feel verry strange talkin in English while my 2 roomates are here. They will be like wtf?
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Re: Black Temple raids
Haha Well let's try with macros first. If it doesn't work, it's fine either way :p
Also, my raiding is going to be limited from now on, but I'll come online from time to time
to see and perhaps start a raid and then leave an officer in charge.
I'm also changing the usual raid time back to 12.30 PM ST, since more people are online then.
Also, my raiding is going to be limited from now on, but I'll come online from time to time
to see and perhaps start a raid and then leave an officer in charge.
I'm also changing the usual raid time back to 12.30 PM ST, since more people are online then.
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Black Temple on Tuesday or Wednesday?
It was a few days ago since the GMOTD has said the Black Temple was to be on Wednesday. I play in an guitar orchestra and we have a 90min practice every Tuesday from 12.30 to 14.00. So there is no way for me to manage the raiding those particular days. However, i'll be done with them in late June. I think we've done a Black Temple on Tuesday before, but that was an exception for me. I won't be able to raid on Tuesday, so is there any chance we change the Black Temple raiding day? If it is not possible i don't mind very much, however i'd like to get myself into there...
Edit: P.S. I've just found out i can't do a raid on Wednesday too... Im starting to get a little more busy than usual cos the school year is nearing to an end. I'll manage to join less raids too.
Edit: P.S. I've just found out i can't do a raid on Wednesday too... Im starting to get a little more busy than usual cos the school year is nearing to an end. I'll manage to join less raids too.
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Re: Black Temple raids
I think I'm going to make a poll for the best Raiding days, since not everyone can be on time or even online.
I'll post the poll in a few days or even tomorrow and let you know it's on here using the GMotD.
I'll post the poll in a few days or even tomorrow and let you know it's on here using the GMotD.
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Re: Black Temple raids
Ok just a quick question. We are really doing BT this wednesday?
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Re: Black Temple raids
Nop Ali, the current GMOTD says the BT is on Tuesday. It >used to write< that BT will happen on Wednesday
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It's because I can't lead BT on Wednesday. I have to go home to run 14.6 km :p
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